Discussion on Patriot Front and Religion

I have been thinking about submitting an application to Patriot Front since

I heard you recommend it as a good organization, and even more so since

their march on the 4th.

But I was looking into the organization, I was a bit dejected by Rousseau's lack

of religion as well as the organization's stated secularism and

openness to paganism.

I get the sense most of the members are Christians, that is definitely correct,

but what do you

Yes, Patriot Front is not necessarily secular.

I know what their materials say,

I have a copy of it here somewhere.

I went to their national gathering,

that's, I guess it's pretty much public knowledge at this point.

I spoke with him,

we didn't really discuss religion, however I

think he'd be fine with me saying that I gave him a challenge

coin and I said that the string attached

was at some point in the future we're going to have a discussion about religion.

So maybe that'll give you some hope for the future.

But I understand why he's doing what he's doing, right?

It's in the vein of many men down through history.

You know, Hitler basically

told the Protestants and the Roman Catholics, keep your squabbling somewhere else.

We don't need it in the political movement.

Bismarck told

the Protestants and the Roman Catholics, keep your squabbling somewhere else.

We don't need it in politics.

The Prussian Union was him telling the Lutherans and the Reform to stop squabbling.

Religious infighting is a very difficult thing in a political movement,

and it can send things off the rails very easily.

So I understand why men who want to focus on the political don't necessarily want

to deal with religion, right?

So, I don't think that it is something that you can entirely avoid,

and the reason for

that is very simple and also very complex, but I'll give the simple answer.

The simple answer is this.

A nation is blood,

soil, and water. Myth.

The biggest part of myth is religion.

Your nation and your religion are identical to a certain extent,

so you can't actually ignore the religion issue, the religion question forever.

I recognize again what these men are doing,

what Rousseau is doing, why he wants to do that.

I don't even think he's necessarily wrong,

but eventually the matter will have to be Now, the goal, of course,

is to win politically and then we can go back to having our infighting

because that's just humanity.

There will always be divisions among you brothers, right,

to paraphrase the words of scripture.

I don't think that ultimately

the nationalist movement in the U S.

that is successful will be able to avoid religion entirely,

and Patriot Front doesn't.

They had a crucifix for their march.

They're not avoiding religion, but like I said, I do know that

most of the organization is Christian. Most of the members are Christian,

many of them are Stone Choir listeners, many of them probably

listening to this as well.

They follow me on X and elsewhere.

I think that ultimately,

the Christian portion, and it is the majority,

of the nationalist movement will win out,

and I think that the pagans will come back into the fold as they see

a more masculine,

traditional Christianity take over from the moribund,

wicked organizations that are all anyway.

So I think that the problem will by and large

solve itself. There will be a few diehards here and there, but that's inevitable.

There are always individuals who are outliers in that way.

So I think join the organization.

I think it is a good thing, and recognize what you're doing.

As a Christian, you're just

tilting that scale a little bit further in our direction, so that's a good thing.

But like I said,

it's a discussion that will have to be had at some point.

It's not something that can be avoided.

It is important. I'm actually writing an essay on it right now.

It's in a notebook down here, half written.

Hopefully, I'll get that published this coming week. But...

I don't think

that it's going to be a big deal that they right now permit religious pluralism, as

it were. I don't think he's going to permit, you know, Hindus and Muslims, right?

He's basically just saying,

I recognize that a certain percentage of white men are fed up with the current

state of the churches and have opted instead for what they're calling neo paganism.

I won't go into the issue right now, and

they're still white men, they're still my brothers,

they want what is best for their nation, and they're Christians as well,

so he's just not dealing with the issue.

I don't have that luxury, right?

And I don't want to get into it too much more deeply because,

like I said, I'm writing an essay on it and I'd rather just publish that.

I don't have the luxury because I'm a theologian and a teacher,

and so I am going to answer to God for the things I say and

the things I fail to say.

I don't get to be the above the fray politician.

I'm involved in politics too,

so there's a bit of both in my case, but

that's why I don't avoid the issue,

even though some men have said they would prefer if I were ecumenical and

just dealt with the politics instead of dealing with the religion as well.

I don't have the option.

But like I said, join the organization,

tilt it further in our favor with regard to the Christian membership.

I think that's a good thing to do.