Debate on Value of Lives in Conflict

I'm going to come to other issues,

I guarantee you, this is not why we got you on the programme,

but it is a story that's happened in the last few days,

it has caused a lot of outrage,

I think it's notable that you don't agree with what he said,

but I just want to be quite clear...

No, I don't. I don't, I simply don't agree.

But just a bit,

am I right in concluding that you believe a Jewish life

is worth the same as a Palestinian life,

and a Palestinian life is worth the same as a Jewish life,

do you agree with that statement?

I tried to listen to the previous item of your programme,

it was about men and women,

so like what you're asking now about Jews and other people,

it reminds me like comparing between a man and a woman,

each one, each individual... has his characteristics,

his nature and what is the point of this comparison?

I am a woman, you are a man and I'm proud of you.

I don't understand why you can't just give me a straight answer.

I am and you are proud of what you are.

A Jew is proud to be a Jew and

a Muslim is proud to be a Muslim.

So what's this comparison for? And especially...

Well, let me help you.

I explained to you that I didn't know about it.

Let me help you, let me help you.

Let me help you understand,

let me help you understand because you're clearly struggling with this.

I think my life is worth the same as your life

and your life is worth the same as mine.

I'm a Catholic, an Irish Catholic.

You are an Israeli Jew.

Alright, I think we're both worth exactly the same.

I've asked you twice and I'll only ask you one more time.

But would you agree that a Jewish life is

worth the same as a Palestinian life?

Yes or no?

I know that you like yes-or-no questions,

answers, I'm sorry, yes-or-no questions,

but I think that it is like a question,

like a question that refers to differences between sexes,

what is more, woman or man?

Say yes or no.

It's not though, is it?

One clear answer. It's not.

One clear answer.

I don't want to give a positive,

one clear answer.

Daniela Weiss, it's not the same,

it's not the same, it's not the same

because you're a woman and I'm a man,

but I think we're both worth exactly the same, right?

A man is worth the same as a woman,

a woman is worth the same as a man.

So I'm just struggling to understand

why you can't just say a Jewish life

is worth the same as a Palestinian life.

Would you agree with that?

I think... that all human beings,

all human beings are the same.

I know, you've said that several times.

But the point is why...

But the point is why you came to this point,

why you're asking me this question.

It's on the basis of some clash.

But you know why.

I just told you why. So...

Daniela Wise, I told you why.

Because a senior Israeli lawyer says that

a Jewish life is worth 10 million Palestinian lives.

I told you why.

I said I do not...

I don't understand why you can't...

I do not use...

You keep talking about...

You keep talking about gender and everything else.

I'm like, look, it's a very simple question.

Do you think a Jewish life is

worth the same as a Palestinian life?

Yes or no?

You either do or you don't.

I... I think that all human beings were created by God.

This... This... I know you do.

You've said that many times.

The Bible itself shows that all human beings are the same.

So, is a Jewish life worth the same as a Palestinian life?

Yes or no?

No, I will...

You will ask the same question,

and I will give the same answer.

Why don't you want to say yes or no?

In Hebrew, we say...

The nature of our flesh and blood,

the nature of this creation,

is that it is God's creation.

Why do you want me to extend on this?

Because of clashes?

I just want you to answer a simple question.

But look, I've tried three...

Someone wants...

With respect, I've asked you three times a very simple question.

You choose not to answer.

That's your prerogative.

You don't have to, but viewers can make their own minds up.