Debate on Social Security and Socialism

I would give up my Social Security if I had to.

Okay.

No, the Democrats just want socialism. That's not American.

Okay. So what-

They want, they want, they want free everything

You-

That's not American.

Are you on Social Security?

In Amer- in A- in America...

Are you on Social Security?

I am, but I work, but I work a full-time business.

No, I know, but you're aware social, uh, Social Security is a socialist program.

Well, that's beside the point. That was-

You just said you don't want socialism

That's fine. That's fine. I don't want socialism a-

across the board.

So are you gonna go give up your Social Security tomorrow?

I would give up my Social Security if I had to.

Okay.

I don't have-

That's begging the point. You're saying you don't want socialism,

but you're

enjoying it.

No, no, no. You, you, you are on a socialist program.

Wait a second. No, I'm not, because I paid into Social Security for 50

years

before I started drawing off of it.

Right, right, but it's redistri- redistribution.

I don't care.

Young people right now-

I paid into it. I earned it

... young people r-

I earned it.

Okay.

So-

I earned Social Security

... but you agree it's a socialist program?

That-

The Veterans Administration is a socialist program,

the veterans' healthcare.

The ve- you know what? The veterans deserve everything they get.

They're the ones that stood up and fought, fought for you and I so we can stand

here and talk freely.

We're in agreement. I'm just saying, we already have socialist programs that

you're-

Well, that's fine. A few of them are fine, but not across the board.

Okay, so which ones are you afraid of?

I've been, I've been in the health insurance business

for 30 years.

We cannot afford socialized medicine.

We, uh, can we affo- can we afford endless war?

We, we, we cannot, we cannot afford single payer health

insurance.

Can we afford endless war?

No, no, no.

We spent 6 trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Were you out here talking about that?

No, no, no, President Trump isn't looking for

that either.

He's try- he's trying to pull everything back.

What are you talking about? The debt has exploded under Trump.

The debt is up double.

You know what? That might be true, but it, but he's also created far more

business than anybody in history and, and as the business grows,

the business taxes will pay that off.

But, but-

You gotta understand the bus-

No, no, no, but... No, no, let's just talk the facts, though

It takes, it takes a free economy to pay, to pay off debt.

Right, but if what he's doing is mostly deregulation and

tax cuts for wealthier people, which that's what the tax cuts were for-

It's the wealthy people-

... that's-

... who create business and jobs for you

So why is it, why is it that such a large portion of America work

minimum

wage jobs to high- l- a little over minimum wage?

Wait, and you have an exploding income

inequality in this

country. If the wealthy people are creating the jobs, why

are so many people

living paycheck to paycheck?

That's a has been.

Has beens are living paycheck to paycheck?

Yes, because it's coming around the other way.

It's taking time, but we have more pe- more people working

today than we have had in history. We've got fewer people on welfare

and f- and fewer people, uh, cr-

We don't have fewer people on welfare than in history.

We don't

Where the hell... Where, where have you been looking at your

statistics?

Uh, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.

Yeah, well, I think you're screwed up.

Okay. Well, I can read, so...