Critique of Zionism and Israeli Policies

Zionism was always about Jewish power over other people.

It was not about self-determination. It was not about equality.

It was always a racially exclusive movement.

I was a liberal Zionist for my whole life. I was a two-state guy.

I was a both sides guy. Um, I only became really an anti-Zionist,

which is someone

who says not only that Israel has problems, you know,

Britain has problems, America

has problems, everybody has problems.

Israel is not only a country that has problems, Israel

is a country that is a

problem. And I think now that we have experienced this genocide,

I think there may

have been other paths possible at some point.

Now, I just have to throw up my hands.

So do you ever envisage a two-state solution?

No. No, I think it's po-- it's impossible.

Um, it-- I talk about Maxime Rodinson, who's a great French scholar who spoke

fifty languages, and he-- his parents were killed in Auschwitz, and he said that

what he had n-not understood earlier was that the settler colonial

nature of this state, which is this foreign settlement coming in

and driving out

the indigenous people, it means that these places get

themselves into a state of perpetual warfare.

They can't just say, "Okay, here's your border,

here's our border," which is what

normal states do. They're inherently expansionist,

and this is what we've seen.

Israel has conquered areas of Syria, of Lebanon, of Palestine,

and they're saying

that we want to go from the Nile to the Euphrates.

I mean, this is a quite common thing to hear in

Israeli media now.