Discussion on Trump's Governance and Constitution

It may be real for a moment that Doge is not about cutting money, right?

It's not about spending.

It's about shrinking government so that it'll be too small to stop Trump with

whatever else is in this plan.

Why would the government stop Trump? Isn't he the head of the government?

You're saying the government would be too small to stop Trump.

If Trump's the president,

why would the government, the bureaucracy, be actively trying to stop him?

Because he is shredding the Constitution and

creating an authoritarian dictatorship. That's why.

And no matter who is in office,

I'm going to hold them accountable.

But more importantly, I'm

going to make sure the government is working for the American people.

Both of you all made an interesting point, which is that your view is that Trump

is shredding the Constitution.

I'd like to hear more about that.

But it seems to me that you all both

believe that the unelected part of our government, the bureaucracy,

has a responsibility to resist the political leadership.

Is that your view? That's not actually what we said.

We said they are upholding the Constitution,

the principles of the Constitution.

And at times, what we have seen How is Trump shredding the Constitution?

My God, he's a I mean, seriously?

Do we have to give you a civics lesson that we have I don't know.

that we have—that we've put all power in the executive branch,

the legislative branch, the FBI, now we're in control of the military,

we're silencing media?

This is what you do in a dictatorship.

Are you suggesting

that the president is not the commander in chief of the military?

I am suggesting that the president is

going to put in charge somebody who is going to contravene the Constitution.

And at some near point, this conversation will look very silly for you,

because it will be obvious.

And right now, you're gaslighting Wait, he's going to put but when we get to the

actual He's going to put rubber of the road of this I'm sorry. it will be clear.

I'm interested in this conversation.

He's going to put someone in charge who will contravene the—like, who?

What do you mean by that?

The president is in charge of the military, is he not?

You said he's going to put someone in charge of the military?

The president is in charge of the military. That is how it works.

He was elected president.

We, according to the Constitution, vest all executive authority in a president.

And the concept that the military

should be an independent agency or that the bureaucracy should resist the political

leadership of this government is extraordinarily dangerous.

That's not what we said. That's such a strawman That's not what we said.

That's literally not what we said.

I'm just repeating back to you your own words.