Discussion on Extremism and Media Responsibility

It's a few more questions before I let you go.

I'm thinking about the Nick Fuentes interview, for example.

And I wanted to transition a little bit to this, because, you know,

I'm wondering about where the line, uh, is between exposing extremism

and normalizing it when you have somebody like him that you had on your show.

I remember people were criticizing you. I didn't watch the interview.

I saw, you know, clips of it,

but I didn't watch the whole interview in its entirety.

And I remember people accusing you of being quite soft on him,

even though I can't imagine you being that guy,

but that's what they were accusing you of.

And they were saying stuff like that,

but we know some of the things that people have felt he said,

and some of the positions that he has taken.

From a generic perspective,

extremism compared to normalization,

where does Tucker Carlson draw that line in the sand,

particularly considering the position that you're in now,

and the kind of influence you wield?

I think it's really important not to normalize extremism and to call it out by name,

and to say, to frame this correctly.

Like, what you're saying is crazy and extreme.

I think it's super important to say that, because otherwise,

it's like, oh, no, this is normal. And I think one of the most

extreme human beings I've ever met in my entire life was Lindsey Graham.

And I would say maybe the second most extreme I've ever met is Ted Cruz,

both U S. senators.

Lindsey Graham, unfortunately, passed away recently.

Ted Cruz still represents Texas.

These are people who have called for murdering innocents at scale,

bombing people who did nothing wrong, killing kids, and have done that for,

like, decades,

who have openly called for the U S.

government and American citizens

to be more loyal to a foreign country than to their own,

who have called for banning Americans' right to criticize a foreign country,

eliminating free speech on behalf of a foreign nation.

You can criticize your own country, totally fine.

You don't have to criticize a foreign country.

That's so crazy that I can hardly believe it's happening. And nobody says it.

So you'll go and you'll interview Lindsey Graham or I interviewed

Ted Cruz last year, and people are like, ooh, no one is like,

I can't believe you're sitting with that wacko extremist, Ted Cruz,

who's literally called for murdering people.

And by the way, has helped murder people. He's a United States senator.

He's not a podcaster. He votes for things. He appropriates money.

That guy has blood on

his hands, the blood of countless innocents,

but it's totally cool to sit with him. How does that work? I don't understand.

Not one person has ever said I can't

believe you sat across from Ted Cruz He's a murderer.

What's true, but we because we're so you're calling the Senate.

You're calling a senator Hold on. Hold on Tucker.

These are these are political officials.

You have no just like you've known Trump You've known a lot of guys on Capitol Hill.

You've interviewed a lot of them.

You've talked to a lot of yes You used to be on Fox

News with your top rated show at 8 p m After you succeed a Bill O Reilly used to

talk to these folks all the time and now here you are on this show You're

calling you're calling them a murder. You're calling senator a guy.

Let's take a cruise a murderer Well, it's true.

Ted Cruz is calling for the killing of innocents and funding it And so what I'm

actually calling for is not calling out poor Ted Cruz whose suffering is already

living in hell And I'm not even mad at Ted Cruz.

I'm I want to awaken people to a real moral framework so you have people who

say ugly things and Great, you know that happens everywhere.

I'm against saying ugly things.

I try not to I have I try not to do that

But that's a very ugly thing to say Tucker.

I mean First of all that first of all,

I don't I don't because he is a senator it actually matters.

It's not ugly It's a fact Ted Cruz has called for killing innocents.

He's done it to me many

many many times Just bomb them just bomb the whole city just blow them up.

What there are

people Thousands millions of people who live there who did nothing wrong.

They have no role in this They have no role in a nuclear program.

They're just going to work. They're little kids.

That's crazy That

is extremist behavior and he has the power to make it happen.

He's a u s Senator so by the way,

we should get back in the media into the habit of

criticizing the powerful I know everyone's upset about some 27 year old gay kid.

Nick Fuentes. Oh, he says don't he thinks?

Yeah, I agree whatever but

who cares what we should care about is when powerful people misuse their power to

hurt the innocent and Ted Cruz is doing that and so a lot of other senators