台灣的自衛意志與應對中國入侵的軍事準備
呃 关于台湾 嗯 我知道你刚才和沙欣参议员谈到了他们的国防预算
另外还有一个问题 嗯 是关于民族意志的
你是怎么… 我的意思是 这东西很难评估 它更偏向
政治判断和治国之道 而不是军事层面 但作为一个职业
军人 你对台湾 以及他们“誓死捍卫国家”的意愿 有什么看法？
呃 我对台湾适龄服役人口的意愿 能力
以及保家卫国的决心非常有信心 远远高于其他国家
我本来想让你说出那些“其他国家” 是谁 不过我想那就牵涉到政治了
所以我就不这么问你了
嗯 我要说的是 呃 乌克兰在冲突前的民调中 显示出相对较低的数字
而且他们的反应非常值得赞赏， 已经是一个社会所能做到的最好了。
台湾的民意调查支持度比那高出好 几个数量级， 这让我可以非常肯定地说他们的
自我防卫意愿是存在的。
这就是常识。
就是说，你不需要拿到那种数据。
我觉得光凭常识就会觉得，如果你坐 在台湾， 你是一个父母，
为了儿子或女儿的未来操心的爷爷 奶奶、 外公外婆，你抬头看看四周的话
比如说共产党统治下的中国在澳门 和香港所做的一切，嗯， 一旦他们掌控了那些领土，
你就不会想让他们来掌控你自己的 领土。
这是对的吗？
是的，先生。
军方是否已经把全部、而且是恰当的 注意力都放在这一威胁上？
嗯，你知道，对我们来说，我们是一个 遍及全球的超级大国， 而且鲍勃·盖茨曾在作证时说过
在他离开那个部门之后来到这个委 员会作证 那时他大概更能畅所欲言
他说自从越战以来 我们对下一场战争的预测记录几乎 是完美的
而我们每一次都判断错了 不管是格林纳达、巴拿马、伊拉克第 一次
还是第二次，或者巴尔干、乌克兰之 类的
这就是为什么我们的军队 要为那么多不同的应急情况做计划
这就是为什么我们会把人送去北极 作战学校 或者丛林作战学校、沙漠作战学校
学习作战
很显然，如果你是台湾军人 从你举手应征当兵那一刻起
到你成为国防部长为止 你应该思考和规划的
就只有一个、且仅有一个 特定的军事应变情境
依你评估 他们的军队是否具备那种一心一意的专注力？
我在他们的军队身上确实看到了这 一点 而且我认为他们非常努力 呃 而且
我看到他们在 呃 在构建那种作战理念方面取得了成功
这种作战理念将会让他们在挫败入 侵时获得成功
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Um, on Taiwan, um, I know you talked with Senator Shaheen about their defense budget. There's also the question, um, about national resolve. What's your, I mean, that's a hard thing to judge and it's, it's more a question of political judgment and statecraft than it is military matters, but what's your sense as a career military man of Taiwan and, and their willingness to go to the mattresses to defend their nation?
Uh, I have a great deal of faith in Taiwan's military age populations, willingness, capability and will to defend themselves, orders of magnitude above others. I was going to ask you to name the others, but I guess that would be in politics. So I won't ask you to do that. Well, what I'll say is that, uh, Ukraine demonstrated relatively low numbers in polling pre-conflict
and they've responded as admirably, as admirably as a society can. Taiwan's polling is orders of magnitude above that, leading me to positively assert their willingness to defend themselves. Just common sense. Like you don't have to have access to that kind of data.
Just, I think common sense would say if you're sitting in Taiwan and you're a mom or dad and you're worried about your son's or daughter's future, grandma or grandpa, and you look at what communist China has done and say Macau and Hong Kong, um, once they gained control of those territories, you wouldn't want them to gain control of your territory. Is that correct?
Yes, sir. Does the military have full and proper focus on that threat? Um, you know, for us, we're a globe spanning superpower and Bob Gates once testified in this committee after he had left the department and was probably a bit more free to speak that we have a perfect, almost perfect record of predicting our next war, uh, since Vietnam.
We gotten it wrong every single time, whether it was Grenada or Panama or Iraq, the first or second time or the Balkans, Ukraine, what have you. That's why our military plans for so many different contingencies. While we have guys up in Arctic warfare school or in jungle warfare school or in desert warfare school.
Obviously, if you're Taiwan's military from the time you raise your hand to enlist as a private to the time you're the chief of defense, there is one and only one military contingency that you should be thinking about and planning for it. Does their military have that kind of single minded focus in your assessment? I do see that in their military and I think that they're working really hard, uh, and
I'm seeing success in their, uh, in their building the kind of operational concepts that will lead for them to be successful in thwarting an invasion.
