Campus Free Speech Debate

Hi, um, what's your organization?

Abolitionists Rising. It's on the bottom of the signs.

Do you guys have permission to film here?

Yes.

From who?

Public property, the Constitution.

Um, so we actually have rules on, for campus.

You have to get specific permission to fill out a form.

Yeah.

And what you guys is not allowed.

You guys should fight that because it's not constitutional.

So, like, they can infringe on your rights too,

and that's not good.

So-

You guys should tell them they can't do that.

But we told them yesterday and they gave up.

You told who yesterday?

The administration that came out.

Which administrations?

The administration.

Which administration?

I don't know what their names were.

The cops came out and the administration came out.

They were telling us we couldn't be here, and we told them, "No, we can," and they

backed off.

Okay. Which... When was that

yesterday?

Yesterday at, like, 11.

Okay.

But-

Um, but you never got any permission and they just gave up

and agreed to get you

guys out?

No, we do not need permission. Yeah, it's a public, public university, so...

I, I'm serious. For your guys' sake too, if you have any causes you care about,

it's important to have open colleges, universities that don't restrict people.

Yeah, no, I, I-

'Cause-

... I completely believe in freedom of speech.

Yeah.

I'm not against that at all.

No, I get you, and that's, that's good for you too, 'cause, like,

when we do this,

we go on a college campus, we challenge policies that are bad-

No, yeah, but there are-

And then they don't do it anymore

... there are students here that are trying to go to class,

and I think that

getting in the way with your camera and your film might, you know, impact-

I can guarantee you we've never blocked a single student from going to class.

No, so there are students going to class right

now.

I know.

And I just-

We've never blocked any of them.

And these, these are political images, and that's going against the campus

rules. Unless you guys got specific permission

from the president-

Yeah

... then you guys aren't allowed to film on

campus.

The campus rules aren't the law, though. That's the thing.

Well, this is...

Our campus has rules.

Yeah, and they're wrong.

Okay.

The rules are wrong.

All right.

So.

Okay.

It's good for you guys in case you like...

If you like free speech, then what we're doing is good for you.

University campus

Yeah.

So it's also cool to hear-

Yeah

... the clients of that.

Did you guys have, like, an official name of...

You said it's Abolition-

Yeah

... Abolitionists?

The bottom of the sign there.

And you don't know the admin that you talked to yesterday?

Uh, it was a group of three guys. I don't know their names,

though. They didn't say their names.

Um.

And you guys were here yesterday too?

Yes.

We were.

Okay. Um, can I get your name?

Sure. My name is Sam.

Sam?

Okay.

Have a good one.