Debate on Israel-Palestine Conflict

Would you say this about apartheid South Africa? I've heard you talk about because I think because

I give you another example where you say it's okay to to continue any level of support for an

openly genocidal society that has mass murdered 80,000 people more than 300 media workers has

invaded Lebanon has bombed Iran and you're saying oh but we need to protect civilians this isn't

about protecting civilians the greatest threat to their civilians is their policy and so I don't

understand why you have even one qualified shred of support for a sniper mass murderer masquerading

as the only democracy in the Middle East. Well but I'm not saying that the United States should

be supporting the funding for Iron Dome just so be very clear I'm saying that we shouldn't be

restricting Israel from being able to get the Iron Dome or be able to develop the Iron Dome

technology. Why stop there everything else you're saying makes so much sense why do you stop there

it feels to me like you're trying to have it both ways on this issue so you can say well I actually

support you know defending the Israeli civilians you're not defending Israeli civilians with that

policy you're defending the sniper's ability to keep killing because it won't face the ultimate

accountability which is a total embargo on all support for an apartheid state. Yeah I don't

think you have to put at risk there are you would agree there are innocent civilians in Israel right

including 20 percent being Arab Israelis I mean I just don't think that you have to put

their lives at risk to achieve the ends of stopping the apartheid stopping the occupation.

Israel puts their lives at risk but Israel puts their lives at risk by waging genocidal wars with

the support of a significant portion of its population and by enabling them by saying well

the sniper still needs to have his cover or well you know I stop at this thing what you're saying

is that the accountability then doesn't lie on American policy toward Israel it's sort of

something abstract well Israeli civilians could die Israeli civilians are dying in these attacks

because of the apartheid you know Palestinian do Palestinians have a right to kill Israeli

soldiers congressman on October 7th when they attacked the military bases in the Gaza envelope

did the Qassam brigades and surreal codes have a right to kill Israeli soldiers yes or no

on October 7th did Palestinians have a right to attack Israeli military bases in the Gaza envelope

yes or no I mean I think October 7th attack was a terrorist attack so I don't was a terrorist

attack when they the first targets that were hit on the morning of October 7th were multiple

military bases did Palestinian forces have a right to attack those military bases I am not for

violent violence again in in any way I mean I am for making sure that we end the occupation

to do it congressman do they have a right to attack Israeli soldiers no I'm not I'm not going

to say that Hamas had a right to attack Israeli soldiers or is or kill Israelis like I don't I

don't think that advances peace or or advances uh uh Palestinian uh statehood did Israel have

a right to drop a single bomb on Gaza in response to October 7th I believe Israel had the right to

get get people who killed uh the civilians but not in the way they went about it which is I

which is which I've said is genocide but the Palestinians don't have a right to attack the

very military bases that are running the killing operations on October 6th 2023 or October 5th

2023 it's a double standard you're saying there are ways that Israel should be able to kill

Palestinians but there is never a condition under which Palestinians can attack armed

uniformed soldiers of a force that is still considered an occupying

force under international law I don't make it make sense to me

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