Discussion on NATO Expansion and Security

Where do they go? I had one interesting comment,

or conversation, with

Zuganov, which was repeated with Lebed.

They talked about they don't want this NATO expansion.

They know it's not in their security interest and on and on, and said, "Well,

and

if you do that, we may have to look to China."

And I couldn't help using the

colloquial expression from my state by saying to Zuganov, "Lots of luck in your

senior year. Um, you know, uh, good luck.

And if n- if that doesn't work, try Iran."

Um, and, uh, I'm serious. I said that to them, and these were ve-- And,

and, and

they know, I knew they knew, everybody knows that that

is not an option. And everybody knows, every one of those leaders

acknowledges a needs, and they resent it, but they

need, they need to look West. And the question is whether

this is designed to completely shut them out, but not in terms of whether or

not it's a direct military security threat.