Debate on Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Burned, babies in ovens

There weren't-- That didn't happen.

There were no babies in ovens.

Oh, yes, they were.

No, there weren't. That's been refuted even by the Israelis.

There were.

No, there weren't.

There were.

There were no babies in ovens.

Well-

But, but, but let's agree. Hold on.

Let's agree on what we do agree on, okay?

A horrible massacre happened.

People were killed in their homes,

civilians. Hold on a second.

Were killed-

Just, just-

Were raped.

Save it. N-n-- Look,

let's agree that it was bad enough without adding stuff to it,

okay?

Now, I'm telling you, there's been no evidence of

mass deliberate rapes. No such evidence.

Oh my gosh.

I'm sorry. There's no such evidence.

Oh, yes, of course there was.

No, there isn't.

There, there-

No. No, I'm sorry.

Was the woman in the United Nation-

The, the, the... Listen

... who came to Israel-

Listen, listen, listen

... and did the research and brought those evidence-

Li-listen

... to the United Nation.

I'll let you, I'll let you, I'll let you finish your question, okay?

My question is-

Oh, no. Go ahead

... how do I find compassion for these people?

Which people?

The animals that did that.

The animals that did that.

I get your point of view,

okay?

In your point of view,

everything you've read actually happened the way you've read it.

Hold on a second.

I'm telling you what I understand your point of view to is.

There was mass rapes,

children beheaded, put into ovens,

so on. Okay, now, objectively,

I'm telling you, I looked at all the evidence I could.

There were horrible massacres. Let's agree on that, okay?

There were hostages, including young children and elderly

people,

civilians

that should never have been captured, that were taken into a

captivity. Let's agree on that, okay?

On the specific issues of babies in ovens and

mass rapes, you and I are not gonna agree 'cause I looked at

evidence that you

haven't looked at. But hold on a second.

L-l-let's just, let's just agree on what we do agree on,

okay? And then let's take your question,

how do we have compassion for these animals?

Well,

I'm not gonna get into a big political rant here,

but I'll tell you what I think very quickly, okay?

If I saw the world

from the perspective that you see the world from,

I would a hundred percent

agree with you.

But that's not how I see the world.

That's not how I see the world.

Number one. Number two,

I've been to Palestine.

Two and a half years ago, I went there to work with

Palestinian women who've been tortured in Israeli jails,

which has been documented by Israeli Physicians for Human

Rights, by B'Tselem, the, the Israeli

human rights organization, by United Nations, and

others. Nobody ever talks about the thousands of

Palestinians. Did you know that two Palestinian doctors were tortured

to death recently by Israel? Doctors tortured to death.

Now, my question to you is, and, and I'm not gonna go into the history.

This is not the place for it,

but I have a different view of the history. I used to see it the way you do.

I don't anymore.

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go into how I do see the

history

'cause this is not the... J-just, just let me finish.

Honest to God, I'll let, I'll let, I'll give you the last word,

I promise you.

I do promise you that, okay?

History did not begin October the 7th,

and, and here's what I know.

Most of my fellow Jews... Now, in Canada, you know I

mentioned the residential schools.

In Canada, four years ago, there was a poll,

a national poll.

Now, thousands of children died in those

schools.

People were tortured, raped, all kinds of stuff,

not even controversial.

There was a poll in Canada.

Seventy percent of Canadians four years ago said they knew

nothing or little about the residential schools.

Seventy percent of Canadians knew nothing or little about the residential schools

to what happened to indigenous people.

If you do a poll in the United States

based on all the Hollywood movies that people have seen,

until very few years ago, and even now,

and most people will know nothing about what happened to the indigenous people

here. Nothing. The genocide,

the torture, the rape,

the starvation,

they know nothing about it. And in some states in the United States,

it's

illegal to even to teach it in the schools.

Now,

do you think the average Jew knows anything about the indigenous people of

Palestine?

Now, s-now, just a second. Just a second.

So these animals

that you talk about, you know, the first massacre of

Palestinians in Gaza didn't happen last year,

didn't even happen four or five years ago

when they killed hundreds of

children with their bombs. It happened in nineteen fifty-six.

Just, just let me second-- Just a second.

In nine- in nineteen fifty-six, they massacred two hundred

civilians.

Do you know about it?

Do you know about it?

You've never heard of it. Of course you haven't heard of it.

That's why you can call them animals.

Otherwise, you'd see them like human beings like the

rest of us.