Discussion on Ukraine NATO Membership

In 2021, we kept reiterating that Ukraine was

gonna join. We kept saying that over and over again.

Did you believe that?

So my, so my qu-

Did you believe that?

So my qu- so my qu- so our, our diplomats are lying?

Yes.

Uh, so-

Yes. That's the real world, guys. Come on.

No, I get that.

Come on.

But, but you can, then, and, and we're-

That's the real world

... wait a sec. Our diplomats are lying all the time,

yet the Russians should trust

them when they offer assurances.

No, no, no, no.

And, and we shouldn't-

Look, please, can I, can I-

No, but here's my, here's my question.

If Ukraine membership in NATO is really

realistically off the table, just not gonna happen,

nothing for Russia to worry

about, why shouldn't NATO take it back?

Say, "We've rethought the matter.

We no longer want to consider Ukraine for NATO membership." If it's

never gonna happen, why not do a very simple thing

that might help

unwind this?

Because that would be an invitation for, for Russia to invade