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One thing you've been critical of the United States of in the past has been its, um, efforts to spread democracy around the world.

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What, what do you object to in the, in the, in that push?

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No, I don't, I don't think it's doable. I'm a social Darwinist.

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I mean- Survival of the fittest. No. The survival requires you to change.

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If you don't change, then you're marginalized, and you will become extinct.

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It's- But you look at the way in which, uh, the United States has been trying to push democracy, uh, around the world- Yes ... and you say- Where have you succeeded?

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You went to Haiti in nation building, and I've just...

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Well, I was just listening to, uh, the BBC on Haiti un- recently. I mean, it, it's just undoable

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