0:00

What do you think of the vote splitting campaign? I mean, how's that going?

0:02

It looks like an utter mess, doesn't it?

0:04

A lot of people do the so-called strategic voting ads, and I gotta tell you, we do not support them.

0:09

I think it's tragic for Luxon because what he's saying is not true.

0:12

And what that risks is actually handing Labor and Chloe Swarbrick the win.

0:15

His accusations that what we're doing is damaging the center right is, is simply incorrect, and if he doesn't know that, I'm astonished.

0:23

Yeah. Well, I mean, it works, doesn't it? Vote splitting works.

0:26

Well, of course this works. So trying to tell people that it doesn't work or that they're too stupid to do it...

0:31

And why is that? Because it is a deliberate, a deliberate attempt to confuse voters in a very tight election.

0:38

Kind of offensive, don't you reckon? It is really offensive because it's, it's blatantly obvious National will win more electorates by a substantial margin than their party vote entitlement. So it makes much more sense to use those party votes for our coalition partners.

0:52

I'm saying to you over and over again, I'll say it every day.

0:54

If you want a National government, National needs to be bigger than Labor.

0:58

He's simply wrong, and he's misleading the public.

1:00

You're coming on here saying Christopher Luxon, the guy who the right wants to be prime minister, is misleading the public.

1:07

It's not a great moment for the right of politics, is it?

1:10

Well, that's true, but where is the fault lying here?

1:12

The fault lies with the Prime Minister. He's misleading the public into believing that a party vote for National will somehow improve the prospects for the center right coalition.

1:22

It won't. Why don't you just tell the public outright and let them decide?

1:25

They are, after all, you know what they are?

1:27

They're a phenomenal thing called the master of democracy

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