Russian Claims About Donbas and Putin’s Different Reality

The Russians think that they really, and they shared, that they really occupied half of the territory of Donbas, which we control really.

Half. It's not like, you know, one village.

And it's like a big, big, real big... And they, I mean, it is, they, it was military people, intelligence from Russian side, and they very seriously spoke about it.

And our team, they sit and, and said that, "Look, I, we, we don't know h- h- how, how you can even speak about it.

If we have," I mean, this, "We have video, images, everything, and when we control, when our people there, our soldiers there," and they said.

So this is a problem that we live in different... I mean, it's, I think that Putin lives i- in a, a little bit in, in another different in- information.

It's different reality