Could Russia Join NATO? Ukraine and Deterrence Discussion

As time has gone on, I, I am becoming more in favor of Ukraine, to be honest with you.

But I don't think that Russia's really going to go after Kaliningrad.

I don't think that's really gonna happen because they're, they're so depleted by this war.

I think that we really did successfully deter them.

So, I don't think they would even try it.

If they can't take Ukraine, I don't think they're gonna go even further.

It's been four years, four and a half years, they haven't gotten anything.

Um, so I, I think that we're holding them off.

When they get richer and we're weaker, I mean, what's the timeline for that?

I think the real way that you deter Russia is you bring them into NATO.

How do you deter Russia? You bring them into the fold.

You make them a, you make them a partner.

And they'll be looking for it. They will maybe be looking to compete with China.

There will be some rivalry there. There'll be some tension.

They share a huge border. So, who knows? I mean, maybe we bring Russia in and we integrate them.

That was kind of the plan. That's the whole idea behind Nord Stream and the idea we might one day be allied with Russia. So, maybe you go about it that way.

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