Heated Debate Over Venezuelan Crime Figures and US Immigration

what will happen. All these- Day one. All, yes, all these criminal migrants that have been flooded in the country are going to be the first to get thrown out of here.

I mean, you, you've seen case after case, these heartbreaking tragedies. Those ones are going to get found and deported first.

And look at this, this Venezuelan gang. You have a Venezuelan gang that is taking over entire apartment buildings in Aurora, Colorado, and that's responsible, by the way, for some of the most heinous crimes that have happened all over the United States.

The crime rate in Venezuela is down, I believe, a little bit over 60% over the last several years.

Are you trusting the official figures from the Venezuelan dictatorship?

Let's put it this way. If you're a dictator of a poor country with a high crime rate, wouldn't you send your criminals to our open border? That, that wasn't my question.

Are you trusting the figures of the dictatorships?

Those are Maduro numbers. Are you believing Maduro numbers?

I am believing that it is in the interest of a criminal dictator to let his criminals out of their jails and come to our country.

Do you have numbers, real numbers, not dictatorship? I have numerous numbers.

The, the, the, the Venezuelan gangs that have...

You, you've seen the CCTV footage. I have a question. Who do you think?

Answer me this. My family is from Venezuela.

I know very well the situation of Caracas and many other cities.

Right. Tell me, who were the people with the high-powered rifles in the hallway of that apartment building? Who were they?

They were gangster from Venezuela. Right.

No American community- But I was asking to you about figures, numbers, facts.

What I'm saying to you is, the facts are the dead bodies.

The facts are- You said that Caracas has a lowest crime rate than the USA.

The facts are, the facts are the mutilated bodies.

The facts are the people in the morgues that are dead.

I was asking you about Caracas and the numbers in Caracas.

Are you trusting the numbers of dictatorship to- I am trusting the fact that Kamala Harris is letting illegal immigrants into this country who are raping and murdering children.

I, I have been very respectful. Why are you yelling?

Do you know, do you know who Jocelyn Nungaray is?

Do you know who she is? Do you know how many people- Tell me who she is ... is experiencing violence in Caracas? Who is she?

Who is Lake and Riley? Who is she? Why are you yelling again?

Because, I'm yelling because children are being raped and murdered by illegal immigrants.

I was just asking for figures, and you have not replied to me about those figures.

Do you know who Kayla Hamilton is? Do you trust the numbers of Nicolas Maduro?

I'm asking again. I trust a ruthless dictator will empty his prisons and send their criminals to our country.

So you trust his numbers? The most da- the most dangerous gang in Venezuela is now- Do you trust Nicolas Maduro?

I trust that he does not want his criminals to be- So you believe in his numbers?

I believe he's sending his criminals to our country.

And do you think that the crime rate in Venezuela have decreased?

Do you not believe the law enforcement reports of Venezuelan gangs in this country?

I was asking for the Venezuelan government figures, not the figures here.

Are Venezuelan gangs in this country or not? Yes or no?

What are the figures that you say to say that in, in Caracas, the number is lower than in the USA?

Are Venezuelan gangs in this country or not?

So you don't have numbers? Are Venezue- you know who has numbers?

The Department of Homeland Security. You can ask Mayorkas for numbers.

You can ask Director Wray for the numbers.

Sir- But I'm telling you- ... you said that in Venezuela, the crime rate is lower than the USA.

Because, yes, because the criminals are here now. What are your numbers?

That's my question. Because the criminals are here now.

Those are Maduro's numbers. I can tell you again that Border Patrol agents are encountering thousands of gangs.

Do you trust Maduro numbers? I trust the border agents in our country.

And I am not saying that Caracas has a lower crime rate.

Children are dead, and you are wasting my time.

No, I am not wasting your time. Children are being raped.

I'm asking for facts as a journalist. Do you have any remorse for the dead children?

Do you care at all about the dead children? Absolutely.

Then that's what I want to leave you with, is that Donald Trump will come to office- I was just asking for figures.

Here's what's going to happen. Donald Trump is going to be elected president, and the migrant gangs are going to be sent home.

Children's lives will be saved. And you know who will benefit the most?

Are the working-class Hispanic communities that are besieged by gang violence.

So you don't have figures. You have public schools that are being overtaken by migrant gangs.

You have MS-13 that is brutalizing children.

You have Kayla Hamilton, who was 20-year-old autistic girl who was raped and murdered, beaten to death. That will end.

That will stop, and our children's lives will be saved.

That is the most virtuous thing that can possibly be done.

We are going to save the lives of our children.

We will not let Kamala Harris condemn them to a life of misery, suffering, and death. Thank you.

Have not replied my question.