Europe’s Role in Ukraine Peace Talks and NATO Security

Um, there were concerns about that because many around the table feel there was a security architecture, there is a security architecture, but Europe violated, or sorry, Russia violated that by invading, um, Ukraine.

But look, in any attempts to bring a war to an end, uh, we know from history, uh, that, um, processes have to be developed.

You know, you have to, uh, get people to a table, you've got to get people to, um, get off the war footing.

Um, but that is why this, the, the, the European perspective is important in terms of what does a peace look like?

What does a new, you know, post-war Ukraine, not new, but a post-war Ukraine look like, um, uh, in the context of the European Union, in the context of, of, of NATO and other organizations?

Um, so there's a lot there has to be accepted to be discussed in that context.

And that's why it's very important that that conversation happens around the European table, and people are very clear.

Um, no, fundamentals aren't going to change in terms of the NATO architecture, uh, and people were very clear about that, um, at yesterday's meeting.