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The strategy that Wernher von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy.

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In fact, when I met him in 74, they were the enemy, the identified enemy.

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We were told that they had killer satellites.

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We were told that they were coming to get us and control us, the dirty commies, that whole story.

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First, the Russians were the enemy against whom we're going to build space-based weapons.

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Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow.

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We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country crazies.

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We now call them nations of concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would be needing to build space-based weapons.

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And the next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point, he kind of chuckled the first time he said it.

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Asteroids, against asteroids we're going to build space-based weapons.

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So it was funny then. And the funniest one of all was against what he called aliens, extraterrestrials.

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That would be the final card. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving his speeches for him, he would bring up that last card and, "Remember, Carol, the last card is the alien card.

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We're going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens."

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And all of it, he said, is a lie. He didn't mention a timeline, but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine, that the effort to put weapons in space was not only based on a lie,

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but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.

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