0:00

But certainly I am aware from my sources who have told me that there was an alleged contact event between reptilian beings and the government of Mao Zedong during the communist regime of Mao Zedong and that the Chinese knowledge and contact with alleged reptilian beings goes right back many decades.

0:25

So they are fully aware of retrievals and indeed there are, I think there's two events that are described as China's potential Roswell.

0:34

One is in 1994 in Inner Mongolia, the Zilingol League, where herders reportedly saw a fireball and found a smoking silver-grey disc that was 10 metres wide, 3 metres tall with window-like openings and markings.

0:52

This has been reported in Chinese media that military forces allegedly arrived quickly, described it as a failed experimental test aircraft.

1:01

They removed the wreckage, told everyone to shut up about it.

1:05

There's been no physical evidence released, no photographs of the craft or the debris under analysis and there's never been, as neither would there be, any official acknowledgement made by any Chinese administration or official.

1:18

The other incident is in 1997 in Datong, Shanxi, which is near a military facility, a former soldier called Wei Guao.

1:27

This is an account published by a Chinese ufologist called Zhang Yiping, published around 2017.

1:35

He claimed a silvery disc crashed during a thunderstorm on a military compound and he described two short, thin, hair-covered beings with mouse-like faces, one apparently dead, one injured.

1:49

The area was sealed, personnel were ordered not to discuss it.

1:53

This is essentially completely uncorroborated.

1:56

Both of these events are completely uncorroborated, so there's not really a lot we can do with these.

2:01

I've been trying to crack China as a story.

2:04

I've been talking to Chinese ufologists for quite a few years and a lot of them talk, I guess, in the same way that people in America were talking in the 1950s and the 1960s.

2:16

You know, they were hearing these stories, they were talking to military witnesses, but everybody was far too scared to feel safe about coming forward and speaking publicly.

2:26

So yeah, I mean, there are Chinese UFO stories.

2:30

I've been told independently by sources within the legacy program and the defense and intelligence community in America that there is an ongoing Chinese retrieval reverse engineering program that is in aggressive competition with the American program.

2:47

And this is possibly, probably one of the reasons why there's so much secrecy surrounding the American program.

2:54

Because wrongly, I think, there is a view in the American government that if you acknowledge the existence of this legacy program by even acknowledging that there have been retrieved craft, then you will basically cause a slippery slope argument where the public demand full access to all of the information.

3:12

And that might put America at a disadvantage to their Chinese and Russian adversaries in this Cold War battle.

3:21

I guess I should deal with the Dropper Stones or the Dropper Stones, which is another story that is commonly cited in Chinese ufology.

3:29

These are a well-known piece of what I would regard as pseudo-archaeology, ancient astronaut lore.

3:36

It's been promoted a lot on a certain US TV show.

3:39

And it claims that there was an extraterrestrial crash landing in China around about 12,000 years ago.

3:46

They are almost universally regarded by archaeologists and scientists and other people I speak to in the intelligence community as a well-crafted hoax.

3:58

The interesting thing is I am told that the Chinese have found archaeological craft dating back many, many thousands of years, as has, of course, the United States.

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