0:00

And I was talking about your father's appearance here 46 years ago in this theater.

0:03

That's amazing, isn't it? It's very intimidating. Yeah.

0:05

Have you ever been in the Ed Sullivan Theater? I haven't. This is the first time.

0:08

Mm-hmm. It's very endearing. I did sound check earlier.

0:10

It's really nice. And, and you must have seen, of course, the footage of, of your father's performance that night. Yes.

0:15

And a- that's when they had that silly thing about they couldn't shoot him from the waist down. Right.

0:18

Do you remember any discussion of that later in his life around the house?

0:22

Did that ever come up again? Did you ever hear any of that?

0:24

No. No. No, I think by then he had it figured out pretty well.

0:27

Yeah, I think he did have it figured out.

0:29

And, uh, like I was talking to Paul earlier, uh, in your own career, in your own life, what have you learned from your father?

0:35

What, what is an important lesson from your father that you carry with you every day?

0:39

Um, I can't say the word I'm thinking, but, um- No, no, go ahead. Say it. Balls.

0:44

I'm sorry? Balls.

0:52

I see.

0:55

And, and in, in what context? You mean just to be a little tougher, a little braver?

0:58

You know, he's, you know, broke through so many different, um, you know, that- Oh, oh, just speaking of your father.

1:04

Yes. He, and then I somehow grew them somewhere along the line.

1:08

No.

1:14

Oh.

1:19

I did not know that. I was not aware. And you wonder why I got nervous.

1:24

Now. Now you start to understand. Uh, um, a- and what about, uh, his music?

1:30

What, what songs, what era, what, uh, what is, what is your favorite song of his?

1:34

I'm sort of prone to the, like, post-'70s thing, uh, music.

1:37

And, and those songs would be, what are we talking about?

1:39

You know, like, um, Kentucky Rain and In the Ghetto. Mm-hmm. In the Ghetto, yeah.

1:42

Older, you know.

1:47

Do you, do you still listen to his music? I do. Yeah.

1:50

Often, or you? Um, I have to be in a certain mindset, but yeah. Yeah. Have you...

1:55

And I guess I know the answer to this. But you must have been back to Graceland, uh, several times, uh, since you lived there, right?

2:00

Yeah, I go back two or three times a year.

2:02

Now, what is that experience like for you when you go back into this house and, and it's not really, it's identical, but it's not really the same, is it?

2:08

It can't possibly be the same. No, it is. It's not been touched.

2:10

Uh, particularly the upstairs. It's, it's, it's kind of capsulized.

2:14

Yeah, but I mean emotionally it can't be the same as it was when you were living there. No, no. Yeah.

2:19

It's kind of, uh, yeah, it's odd. Yeah. How does it make you feel when you go there?

2:24

It, uh, depends. Sad, you know, that type thing. Oh, really?

2:27

It brings back sad feelings for you? Well, good and bad.

2:30

It's sort of a beautiful sadness, I guess you could say. Yeah. Yeah.

2:33

Um, and Michael Jackson, you were married to him for how long?

2:36

Ah.

2:46

What? About two years, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

2:50

And, and was, is, was he as strange then as he is now?

2:54

Well, first of all, first of all, that's unfair.

2:56

Do, do you think he is strange? Um, lately, you know, I have the same opinion I think everyone else has. Right.

3:03

And, and what do you think happened there? Did something go wrong?

3:08

I, you know, uh, you mean since I was with him?

3:10

No, no, just, just, just as a guy. Let's just say that you had nothing to do with him. But just as somebody- Uh, I don't, and I don't mean that the way people think I mean it.

3:19

But just as somebody might comment on anybody else's career, what do you think went wrong there in his career and in, i- if in fact something went wrong.

3:26

I, I think something has gone wrong. Something, something's gone awry, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

3:30

I don't know what. Yeah. Were, were there any signs of it when you and he were married?

3:35

Um, there, you know, I left. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

3:41

I see.

3:44

Okay, fair enough. Now tell me about, uh, you have two kids of your own now.

3:49

Yes. Uh, well, the older is, uh, 13, you said? 13. Yeah.

3:51

Now, when you're raising your kids, do, do you ever remember similar moments when you were a ki- a kid being raised by your family at home, and they bring back memories of, uh, what would your father do?

4:01

And do you, you ever have, uh, m- moments like that where you need that advice or that memory?

4:06

Um, nothing worked on me particularly. Really? No.

4:11

And nothing's working on my daughter, so it's- So there, she, she's very much like you were then. Yes. Yeah.

4:17

She- She's headed there. She's a little more together than I was- Yeah ... somehow.

4:20

And, and what do you remember about your dad as your father?

4:24

What memories do you have of, of him as just a guy?

4:26

Oh, I have a lot of them. Mm-hmm. I don't usually go into them 'cause I don't really like...

4:31

It, it's odd for me to talk about that when I'm- Right ... you know.

4:34

Uh, something has gotta be left to mine somewhere. Mm-hmm.

4:37

Yeah, that's, well, that's right, and I respect that, but you would be one of a handful of people that know, uh, things that nobody else would ever have a way of knowing about your father. Mm-hmm. And you wanna keep it that way.

4:46

Mm. Yeah, I understand. Yeah. Yeah. And, and what, what do you and your family do for fun when you wanna go to...

4:51

Uh, I guess you go on vacation and stuff.

4:52

What kind of things do you do? I, you know, go to Hawaii, travel, things like that. Right. Just normal stuff?

4:57

You're very good-looking in person.

5:09

Oh, well, that's very nice of you to say.

5:11

And I, I think you couldn't be lovelier.

5:12

My God, you're- Thank you ... what an attractive woman.

5:14

Thank you.

5:18

What do you think, Paul? How's it going? Swingingly, Dave.

5:21

Yeah. Swingingly. Um, and in a minute you're gonna sing for us. Are you- Oh, God ... are you excited about that?

5:28

Um, yeah.

5:31

Well, this is, this is only my third, fourth time in front of a crowd, so- Really?

5:36

And it's of course, you know, on national television. Yeah. So I mean...

5:39

And, uh, how do you like performing before a live audience?

5:42

If you've only done it three times, it's exhilarating, isn't it?

5:44

It's a, a little nerve-wracking right now, just because of the curiosity factor and the speculation and nerves- Right ... thing is, I can feel it, so I have to sort of...

5:53

I need to get my feet wet. They're sort of throwing the baby out with the bath water with me, right? Yeah.

5:56

But I, I think, I think you'll do very well here tonight, because these people are great. They're very supportive, and they like you.

6:00

Yes, you can see that. They, they've taken a very nice-

6:08

Well- Thank you ... it's a real thrill to meet you. It's a thrill, really. It, it really, really is.

6:13

I'm happy-

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