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About 10 days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon, and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld.

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And one of the generals called me, and he said, "Sir, you gotta come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy."

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He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq."

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I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?"

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He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do."

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I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to Al-Qaeda?"

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He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way.

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They've just made the decision to go to war with Iraq."

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He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military, and we can take down governments."

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So, I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time, we were bombing in Afghanistan.

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I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?"

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And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that."

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He said, "I just got this down from upstairs," meaning the Secretary of Defense office, "today."

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And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran."

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I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir."

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I said, "Well, don't show it to me."

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