0:00

Well, Claudia, tell me, what did you think?

0:03

Of what? Well, the one that's going to be the exhibition.

0:07

Oh, it was wonderful, just wonderful. Well, the wine was delicious. Claudia, that's not what I'm asking you.

0:13

I'm asking you about the photographs, what you thought of them.

0:17

Uh, um, um, very different from the ones you put here in, in the neighborhood, right?

0:23

Like— Yes. Like more experimental, right?

0:27

Huh? Like the subject is way in the background, right?

0:31

But come on, did you like them or not? Um. Uh— Claudia. Claudia, please, we're friends.

0:41

You can be completely honest with me. Of course, you know, Fina, I don't know anything about art.

0:49

You didn't like them. No, I didn't say that, okay?

0:52

I said, well... They were a little weird, right?

1:02

As far as I understand it, art is there to express yourself, not to be liked.

1:07

Exactly, exactly. Yeah, but if what I do doesn't get through or isn't understood, then, to me, it's a failure.

1:14

No, for God's sake, everyone there was happy, saying lovely things.

1:19

The only one I heard say anything bad was this guy who was dressed…

1:23

Who? A man. A man wearing a scarf. That one.

1:29

He looked like he pissed cologne. Claudia, that's Vicente Sastre, the art critic I just told you about.

1:36

Well, I don't think so. There were, there were lo-lots of people dressed weirdly like that, you know?

1:40

And what did he say? Uh, I don't know, I wasn't paying attention.

1:45

Claudia. Mmm. It's just that I don't remember exactly, Fina. Please, Claudia, what did he say?

1:55

Well, he said…

1:58

That it had no soul and lacked rigor. I don't know, Fina, just really pretentious things. I didn't quite catch it.

2:05

And was he standing in front of one of my photos?

2:08

No, no. Look, I was walking around over there, come on, I could be talking about anyone.

2:18

Claudia, can we have coffee at another time, please?

2:20

Oh, Fina, darling. Forgive me, Miguel.

2:25

Fina.

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Original transcript (Spanish)

Bueno, Claudia, cuéntame, ¿qué te pareció?

¿El qué? Pues el que va a ser la exposición.

Ah, pues estupenda, estupenda, vamos. Bueno, el vino estaba riquísimo. Claudia, no te estoy preguntando esto.

Te estoy preguntando por las fotografías, qué te parecieron.

Eh, mmm, mmm, muy distintas a las que pusiste aquí en, en la colonia, ¿no?

Como- Sí. Como más experimentales, ¿no? ¿Eh?

Como el tema muy en el fondo, ¿no? Pero a ver, ¿te gustaron o no te gustaron?

Mmm. Eh- Claudia. Claudia, por favor, hay confianza.

Me puede responder con total sinceridad.

Claro, si tú sabes, Fina, que es que yo de arte no entiendo nada.

No te gustaron. No, yo no he dicho eso, ¿eh?

He dicho, pues... Eran una mijina rara, ¿no?

Yo, por lo que tengo entendido, el arte está para expresarse, no para gustar.

Exactamente, exactamente. Ya, pero si lo que hago yo no, no llega o no se entiende, entonces para mí es un fracaso.

No, por Dios, estaba todo el mundo contento allí diciendo cosas bonitas.

Al único que escucho yo decir algo malo es a uno que llevaba una pinta...

¿A quién? Un señor. Un señor que llevaba un fular. Ese.

Parecía que meaba colonia. Claudia, ese es Vicente Sastre, el crítico de arte que te acabo de comentar.

Bueno, no creo. Había, había mu-muchos así vestidos raros, ¿eh?

¿Y qué es lo que dijo? Eh, no sé, yo no estaba prestando atención.

Claudia. Mmm. Es que no me acuerdo bien, Fina. Por favor, Claudia, ¿qué dijo?

Pues dijo que...

Que no tenía alma y que le faltaba rigor.

Y no sé, Fina, como cosas muy pedantes. Yo no me enteré bien.

¿Y estaba delante de una de mis fotos? No, no.

A ver, estaba por allí caminando, vamos, podría estar hablando de cualquiera.

Claudia, ¿nos podemos tomar el café en otro momento, por favor?

Ay, Fina, cariño. Perdóname, Miguel.

Fina.

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