文書鑑定人、マリコパ郡の投票用紙2万5千枚に印刷上の違いと主張

I found that there were about 25,000 ballots that were not printed from the official Dominion PDF ballot.

In other words, the printing process, appearance, uh, is completely different than what you would get from a first generation PDF printing.

We had twen- approximately 25,000 ballots that were not created from the PDF that is used for the election process.

So in other words, the election provider comes up with ballots, and it's specific to a geographical area because the person that lives in this neighborhood might not be voting for the same people that live in that neighborhood or, or another neighborhood.

So here in Maricopa County, from memory, you had 5,012 or something like that, just over 5,000 different permutations and combinations to the ballots.

Then that's multiplied by two because there's a Spanish version that's available for each one of these ballots.

But it's the same ballot with the same people, just in a different language.

So we've got five... We'll just say 5,000 different ballots for now, uh, that are created ahead of time, and those are created in PDF.

Now, the big reason why is that you have a third party send out mail-in ballots, so those have to be created in advance, and second, for your early voting, you have vote on demand.

So in other words, even if I live way out in the corner of the county but I work downtown, I could go to something downtown that could print my ballot from my area, and I could vote here. It's convenient.

A lot of people do that. So these PDFs are created in advance.

They're obviously good quality PDFs, and when they're printed, they should look roughly or exactly the same.

In this group of ballots, I find that the quality is severely degraded from what a PDF would be p- as if printed on demand, or if printed by your, uh, third party provider who prints these all the time.

I'm Eric Spiegle. I'm a forensic chemist and a forensic document analyst.

That means I deal with all aspects of question documents, when they were made, if they've been altered, changed, or added to, and how long ink has been on paper.

I was asked if I had experience in election matters to look at primarily printing processes, machine copied marks, uh, CPS code, which is a counterfeit protection system, and I said that I did, and I traveled to Arizona with three other people from my office,

uh, that I had. Number one is that there were a series of ballots, uh, that I examined the photographs of.

And Dominion, as the election subcontractor, produced ballots for each of the zones or districts that were involved, at least in the area that I looked at here in Maricopa County.

Um, and there were 5,000, approximately, a little over, different ballots.

As you know, in a state, there could be two different senator races, there could be 10 different House races.

I- and all the permutations and combinations is what gives you the 5,000.

So they create a final ballot for each one of these districts or zones or regions, so that when you go in and you give your name, and it knows you're from this area, you would get this ballot to vote on all the issues that pertain to you and only the issues that pertain to you.

And I found that there were about 25,000 ballots that were not printed from the official Dominion PDF ballot.

In other words, the printing process, appearance, uh, is completely different than what you would get from a first generation PDF printing.

As you can imagine, the lines are perfect.

So they're perfectly straight, no breaks in them, the circles or ovals as they may be, and they're a solid line.

When I examined some of the early voting ballots and election day ballots from various polling locations, there were about 25,000 that did not have printing from this perfect PDF, as you would expect, but instead had breaks in all the same places around an oval.

So you can look at one of the ovals, and there are imperfections in the line, and they're in the same place on every single one of these ballots.

These 25,000 unidentifiable ballots alone represent over double the amount of Joe Biden's 10,457 vote mar- In July of '21, actually before that, we, uh, we told them in June, we told them that we suspected, from what we're seeing,

25,000 plus counterfeit, inauthentic ballots.

Uh, that was early on in the process. Again, because of propaganda by the GOP's attorney, the GOP, other conservative operatives, they planted the seed inside this that you can't trust that, no, that's not it, et cetera.

You'll hear more about it, but every one of the people up there knew this in advance, even of this hearing today.

Now, the reason I bring that up is they had well over a year and a half to react to this so it wouldn't be duplicated in 2022, but they didn't.

They did nothing, and they allowed it. They enabled this to be done again